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the funny bit is, as quoted by keane, when we have noob ally they join, when have ally who knows blood they play euro -.-
we waited 2 hours last night with 6 eot online!!
Also, I don't even know why was that tournament open for everyone. It should have been restricted to RIP members and a few close friends, that way it would have worked nicely. It's obvious that an event, no matter which one, hosted &/or organized by Zanchy to the public would end in an endless wave of arguments.
@Hope you've learned the lesson, Gary.
Coming from an Eot'er so apparently they're not all ****ed (Sry Charlie, you used to be the non ****ed Eot'er but in this topic alone already you proved you reduced yourself to their level)
His downfall however, was that he changed a tournament originally intended for his clan [RIP] with a map range they all play in and enjoy. Then he had the idea to open the tournament up to all players and rename it poorly (Zanchy - wording is very important). He made compromises by adding in new maps (besides Europe - but seriously stop trolling about it, Europe shouldn't be associated with any tournament but it's own), however he did not compromise his own maps (various editions of RCB and CB maps which only differ slightly, and only a few groups of people actually play semi-regularly or have any knowledge of).
Looking at the maps, personally I would of allowed the following for each group;
Bloods: Smosh, Khans, KM, Veteran, Path, Deathrow and maybe add in an AOK map like Radical.
CB: CBA (Celt, Jap, Sar, Mongol), RCB Gold (ditto), MCB (ditto), CBX (ditto).
Alternate: I wouldn't add any maps. The ladder shouldn't really have ratings anyway, the maps vary so much from each other and don't really fit in with competitive gaming as a whole. As for what to use to replace it, who knows. Maybe a difficult maps tier: (Dome, WoA, Graves-Huns, Gwarz, Herofest- Turks/Pers).
However, I did like that you could only choose a map once for the entire tournament. Nice touch el zancho.
As for the medals, I don't really think the tournament merits them. I also think that most tournaments don't really merit them. I forget if there is actually a criteria to adhere to when awarding medals as prizes or not. It should be something like the Olympics concept, whereas the medals are rare and hard to come by. Medals for a one-map tournament are lame, and medals for a tournament hosted and created from a user outside of staff is lame. I got a medal last night for a tournament I had no preparation for, a team I had no practice with and was put together on the spot. The tournament was weak in skill (No ViCiouS teams, no LC teams, no Brian+Friends, no Aces), and luckily Eot won or the memes would have been flooding out 11!!! Point is, tournaments structuring and prizes need to be harder to attain, I get gold membership for placing third in a ladder? Good players need a reason to practice, and there's nothing motivating for that to happen at the moment.
2nd best Quote. Especially appreciate the honesty about Euro tournaments and i agree with you about the alternative maps.
Flan
I'd like to see you try to win a Euro game without using 0 economy, using only micro. Unless you go full out vil war at the start that is. So in other words, if you play Euro vil war without gathering resources it's CS, if you play it with the gathering it's RM.
But i can easily see how it's really neither but it definately shouldn't be played in CS tourney's and even less in clan wars.
I am willing to bet I can win a Europe game "without using 0 economy" without vill warring, however.
You're gonna let your teammates sling you? Cause that would make you CS-parasiting on your teammates RM'ing =o.
Either way interesting frame of thought.
You're gonna let your teammates sling you? Cause that would make you CS-parasiting on your teammates RM'ing =o.
Either way interesting frame of thought.
i.e, using economy
end of Rick's grammar lessons for today
Not even bothering to argue about whether Europe is a CS or not, but to say it doesn't have much micro is ignorant at best